God’s justice according to a deluded Christian

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‘Dawah refuted’ (DR) is a “regular jhon” new persona which retains its unintelligible thinking and incoherent English.

He is now back preaching that God cannot forgive sins but must always punish the criminal.

DR defends the idea of “justice” which  god punishing an innocent person and let off the criminal.  He can not deal with the fact that true God of Abraham is God is Just and Merciful.

He speak of the need for the so-called sacrifice of Jesus, a gross mischaracterization of the true God of the Bible.   The scripture says that God’s justice is tempered by mercy, the two qualities perfectly balanced.

However this DR are believing in man-made theology by envisioning the punishment of the innocent rather than the offender.

This is not ‘just’ at all.

How can justice is carried out if the offender has still not been punished?? that he has not received his just deserts??.
Also how can possibly an entirely innocent person has taken the offenders punishment??.
This too is not ‘just’ at all.  Justice has not been done in the slightest.

By definition justice is:  “to treat people fairly, to give them their due reward or punishment.”

Therefore it is the guilty offender who merits the punishment. To punish someone else for that crime is unjust, an act of injustice – whether or not the parties involved agree to it or not.

Justice is justice and should not be twisted out of recognition to suit the man-made theology.

God in the scriptures CLEARLY say: The One Who Sins Will Die

Ezekiel 18

1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.

5 “Suppose there is a righteous man
who does what is just and right.
6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor’s wife
or have sexual relations with a woman during her period.
7 He does not oppress anyone,
but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
8 He does not lend to them at interest
or take a profit from them.
He withholds his hand from doing wrong
and judges fairly between two parties.
9 He follows my decrees
and faithfully keeps my laws.
That man is righteous;
he will surely live,
declares the Sovereign LORD.

10 “Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things[a] 11 (though the father has done none of them):

“He eats at the mountain shrines.
He defiles his neighbor’s wife.
12 He oppresses the poor and needy.
He commits robbery.
He does not return what he took in pledge.
He looks to the idols.
He does detestable things.
13 He lends at interest and takes a profit.

Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head.

14 “But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:

15 “He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor’s wife.
16 He does not oppress anyone
or require a pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
17 He withholds his hand from mistreating the poor
and takes no interest or profit from them.
He keeps my laws and follows my decrees.

He will not die for his father’s sin; he will surely live. 18 But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.

19 “Yet you ask, ‘Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

21 “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

24 “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die.

25 “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, you Israelites: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. 27 But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. 28 Because they consider all the offenses they have committed and turn away from them, that person will surely live; they will not die. 29 Yet the Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?

30 “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

This DF continue to rant that  that ‘sin is a metaphysical nature and attribute’ –  like a Platonic idea of sin which has an ontological existence in itself.

Islam (and genuine earlier revelations) teach that sin is anything that goes against the commands of God. Islam (and genuine earlier revelations) teaches that sin is an act and not a state of being.
One may sincerely repent to God for wrongs committed and seek forgiveness, as stated in the Quran: “Our Lord! Forgive us our sins, remove from us our iniquities, and take to Yourself our souls in the company of the righteous.” (3.193).

Therefore we do not need a human sacrifice to obtain forgiveness. Repentance will do.

Thats the true justice. that the only the guilty person merits punishment for his crime, the innocent person does not. To punish the innocent person for the wrong acts of the criminal is unjust, wrong, immoral and unworthy of the God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

The parable of the Prodigal Son is a beautiful illustration of the true Abrahamic teaching.

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* The writing above are mostly adapted from br. Paul Bilal Williams blog بارك الله

** The Arabic calligraphy by Elinor Holland is words from Muhammad (peace be upon him) which translates as “God has mercy upon those who are merciful to others.”

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